Comments on: Lebanon http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/07/lebanon/ Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:00:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: upyernoz http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/07/lebanon/#comment-117 upyernoz Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:17:04 +0000 http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/?p=38#comment-117 did israeli officials tell you that lebanon was part of the axis of evil? or that syria is? or that there is any political party in lebanon that isn't on the far fringe that advocates better relations with israel? or that the lebanese government is trying to "remove the terrorist organization hezbollah" when just last month hezbollah became part of the ruling coalition and picked the new lebanese president? or that lebanon is under american sanctions? do you have links for any of that? or are you just going to assure me that you were told with good authority by ministers in the israeli government that contradicts every other source about israeli-lebanese relations, including things i have experience first hand? i mean, you can pull your i-met-with-israeli-officials card all you want. it's pretty clear to me that you really don't know much about lebanon. maybe the israeli officials lied to you, or maybe you just misunderstood what they were saying. did israeli officials tell you that lebanon was part of the axis of evil? or that syria is? or that there is any political party in lebanon that isn’t on the far fringe that advocates better relations with israel? or that the lebanese government is trying to “remove the terrorist organization hezbollah” when just last month hezbollah became part of the ruling coalition and picked the new lebanese president? or that lebanon is under american sanctions? do you have links for any of that? or are you just going to assure me that you were told with good authority by ministers in the israeli government that contradicts every other source about israeli-lebanese relations, including things i have experience first hand?

i mean, you can pull your i-met-with-israeli-officials card all you want. it’s pretty clear to me that you really don’t know much about lebanon. maybe the israeli officials lied to you, or maybe you just misunderstood what they were saying.

]]> By: Anthony Pugliese http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/07/lebanon/#comment-96 Anthony Pugliese Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:25:15 +0000 http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/?p=38#comment-96 Although you would make it appear otherwise, you do not know what you are talking about on this, and from what I have seen in the past, several issues regarding the middle east. I just returned from a trip to the middle east where I was there for United States/ Israeli relations. While there we were briefed by Knesset officials, which since you are so informed and smart you would realize this is their version of congress. It was by these Knesset members and officials from the ministry of defense I learned about the issues I discussed in my post. If you think I am lying I would advise you to contact your leadership in the CDA, they were there as well. For example Katie Naranjo who is running for CDA President, along with her there were others from CDA leadership present. Thanks and have a fantastic day! Although you would make it appear otherwise, you do not know what you are talking about on this, and from what I have seen in the past, several issues regarding the middle east. I just returned from a trip to the middle east where I was there for United States/ Israeli relations. While there we were briefed by Knesset officials, which since you are so informed and smart you would realize this is their version of congress. It was by these Knesset members and officials from the ministry of defense I learned about the issues I discussed in my post. If you think I am lying I would advise you to contact your leadership in the CDA, they were there as well. For example Katie Naranjo who is running for CDA President, along with her there were others from CDA leadership present. Thanks and have a fantastic day!

]]> By: upyernoz http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/07/lebanon/#comment-79 upyernoz Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:31:46 +0000 http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/?p=38#comment-79 wow, so many factual mistakes in this post. first, lebanon is not part of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_Evil" rel="nofollow">axis of evil</a>. and neither is syria, although some people like to pretend it is. the u.s has diplomatic relations with syria, i've been to the embassy in damascus. second hezbollah is an indiginous lebanese organization. actually it's both a lebanese political party and a shia militia that took part in the lebanese civil war. hezbollah did receive assistance from iran during the lebanese civil war because iran sees itself as the protector of shia islam. meanwhile hezbollah briefly fought with syrian troops after syria invaded lebanon to put an end to the war. syria eventually did end the war, by beating all the factions and imposing peace on the country. in 2005 syria pulled out of the country and between 2005 and this year lebanon was governed by an anti-syria coalition government called the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_14_Alliance" rel="nofollow">march 14th alliance</a>. israel attacked lebanon (in retaliation for hezbollah's cross-border raid) in 2006, attacking the entire country, even areas not sympathetic to hezbollah. because hezbollah eventually drove the israelis out, the war greatly strengthened hezbollah and turned all factions in the country strongly against israel. hezbollah later leveraged their new political strength and forced the march 14th coalition to enter into power-sharing arrangement. hezbollah is now in partial control of the country. also at no point in recent history has lebanon "trying to create positive relations with Israel." wow, so many factual mistakes in this post. first, lebanon is not part of the axis of evil. and neither is syria, although some people like to pretend it is. the u.s has diplomatic relations with syria, i’ve been to the embassy in damascus.

second hezbollah is an indiginous lebanese organization. actually it’s both a lebanese political party and a shia militia that took part in the lebanese civil war. hezbollah did receive assistance from iran during the lebanese civil war because iran sees itself as the protector of shia islam. meanwhile hezbollah briefly fought with syrian troops after syria invaded lebanon to put an end to the war. syria eventually did end the war, by beating all the factions and imposing peace on the country. in 2005 syria pulled out of the country and between 2005 and this year lebanon was governed by an anti-syria coalition government called the march 14th alliance.

israel attacked lebanon (in retaliation for hezbollah’s cross-border raid) in 2006, attacking the entire country, even areas not sympathetic to hezbollah. because hezbollah eventually drove the israelis out, the war greatly strengthened hezbollah and turned all factions in the country strongly against israel. hezbollah later leveraged their new political strength and forced the march 14th coalition to enter into power-sharing arrangement. hezbollah is now in partial control of the country.

also at no point in recent history has lebanon “trying to create positive relations with Israel.”

]]> By: Katie http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/07/lebanon/#comment-63 Katie Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:02:26 +0000 http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/?p=38#comment-63 Thanks for posting this Anthony. It gives people a better idea of whats going on! Thanks for posting this Anthony. It gives people a better idea of whats going on!

]]> By: Adam LaDuca http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/07/lebanon/#comment-59 Adam LaDuca Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:10:20 +0000 http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/?p=38#comment-59 Good thoughts, Anthony. I agree that this deal of sorts is in fact rather shady. I would think Lebanon, if they are truly serious about cutting ties to the axis of evil, needs to reconsider their support of Hezbollah and Hamas PERIOD, not just when it suits them. Afterall, Hezbollah and Hamas can't give them what they need NEARLY to the degree the U.S. or Israel can. So you're right, they are only playing nice for the time being to get out from under the sanctions that are screwing up their "economy" and their "nation" or whatever they have left of either one of them. In the end, just to suck the American taxpayers dry. Just like our own congress with this new proposed increase in the gas tax. Hear about that one lately? It's a doozie (spelling). Good thoughts, Anthony. I agree that this deal of sorts is in fact rather shady. I would think Lebanon, if they are truly serious about cutting ties to the axis of evil, needs to reconsider their support of Hezbollah and Hamas PERIOD, not just when it suits them. Afterall, Hezbollah and Hamas can’t give them what they need NEARLY to the degree the U.S. or Israel can. So you’re right, they are only playing nice for the time being to get out from under the sanctions that are screwing up their “economy” and their “nation” or whatever they have left of either one of them. In the end, just to suck the American taxpayers dry.

Just like our own congress with this new proposed increase in the gas tax. Hear about that one lately? It’s a doozie (spelling).

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