Comments on: Russia Invades Georgia: What Does This Mean for America? http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/08/russia-invades-georgia-what-does-this-mean-for-america/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:41:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: upyernoz http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/08/russia-invades-georgia-what-does-this-mean-for-america/#comment-194 upyernoz Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:24:28 +0000 http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/?p=71#comment-194 that's a strange stance you're taking, since until fairly recently georgia was part of russia. if georgia had the right to become independent and split off from russia in 1991, why can't south ossetia become independent and split off from georgia? if you really believe that parts of sovereign nations can't become independent, then russia would have the right to send troops anywhere in georgia just because georgia was once part of russia. and, for that matter, do you even support u.s. independence? and i'm not blaming "us and our allies", once again you're oversimplifying things. both georgia and russia have, at various times in recent years, been called "our allies." no matter which side you favor, you are arguably opposing one ally or another. and just because you're an ally doesn't mean every single thing you do is right. georgia was reckless to send troops into south ossetia. even if you don't support the ossetian's independence movement, on a purely practical level the the russian reaction was completely predictable. that’s a strange stance you’re taking, since until fairly recently georgia was part of russia. if georgia had the right to become independent and split off from russia in 1991, why can’t south ossetia become independent and split off from georgia? if you really believe that parts of sovereign nations can’t become independent, then russia would have the right to send troops anywhere in georgia just because georgia was once part of russia. and, for that matter, do you even support u.s. independence?

and i’m not blaming “us and our allies”, once again you’re oversimplifying things. both georgia and russia have, at various times in recent years, been called “our allies.” no matter which side you favor, you are arguably opposing one ally or another. and just because you’re an ally doesn’t mean every single thing you do is right. georgia was reckless to send troops into south ossetia. even if you don’t support the ossetian’s independence movement, on a purely practical level the the russian reaction was completely predictable.

]]> By: Jacey Paladino http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/08/russia-invades-georgia-what-does-this-mean-for-america/#comment-193 Jacey Paladino Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:39:40 +0000 http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/?p=71#comment-193 Russia has NO RIGHT to tell Georgia to do anything. They are their own sovereign nation. Whether or not South Ossetia wants to be part of Georgia is none of Russia's business. South Ossetia is part of Georgia whether they like it or not. If the Georgian government want to put troops there for whatever reason, they can! What I don't understand is why the Left always assumes that us and are allies are to blame. Russia has NO RIGHT to tell Georgia to do anything. They are their own sovereign nation. Whether or not South Ossetia wants to be part of Georgia is none of Russia’s business. South Ossetia is part of Georgia whether they like it or not. If the Georgian government want to put troops there for whatever reason, they can!

What I don’t understand is why the Left always assumes that us and are allies are to blame.

]]> By: upyernoz http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/2008/08/russia-invades-georgia-what-does-this-mean-for-america/#comment-192 upyernoz Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:00:27 +0000 http://pacollegerepublicans.com/blog/?p=71#comment-192 what i don't get is why georgia is assumed to be the good guy by so many bloggers on both the left and right. i mean, while russia really overreacted, georgia really did bring this upon itself. georgia is the one who started an offensive in south ossetia after russia warned them not to do it and massed troops in north ossetia. and while georgia claims that it had the right to start the offensive in the name of territorial integrity, the bottom line is that the south ossetians don't want to be part of georgia. why should we force them to be ruled by georgians when they want autonomy? as for the candidates various statements, it's mccain's that i find to be the most reckless. simply threatening russia is the stupidest course you could possibly take. if we let georgia into NATO, that means the u.s. is at war with russia. is it really worth getting into yet another war for the cause of forcing ossetians to be part of a country that they don't want to be part of? what i don’t get is why georgia is assumed to be the good guy by so many bloggers on both the left and right. i mean, while russia really overreacted, georgia really did bring this upon itself. georgia is the one who started an offensive in south ossetia after russia warned them not to do it and massed troops in north ossetia. and while georgia claims that it had the right to start the offensive in the name of territorial integrity, the bottom line is that the south ossetians don’t want to be part of georgia. why should we force them to be ruled by georgians when they want autonomy?

as for the candidates various statements, it’s mccain’s that i find to be the most reckless. simply threatening russia is the stupidest course you could possibly take. if we let georgia into NATO, that means the u.s. is at war with russia. is it really worth getting into yet another war for the cause of forcing ossetians to be part of a country that they don’t want to be part of?

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